I concur. Great minds think alike; I posted a similar thought in another thread before I read your earlier thoughts here, FFGhost. I did not plagiarize you. Yours is the better comment.
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Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”
by FFGhost inso, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.
old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.
the “door of the ark” is closed.
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Governing Body shuts down Hong Kong Branch
by Newly Enlightened inhttps://youtu.be/4g5yx133h_y?si=4lhljyrnyk05k2bh.
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Nathan Natas
I think Diogenesister is on the right track. If the anal polyp known as Xi Jinping decides to exercise his psychopathy, things in the PRC's immediate neighborhood could become difficult for unapproved ideas and organizations. Moving the BORG staff to Korea protects them. As for JWs who live in Hong Kong, the GB will inform them that they are on their own.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Sinner's Prayer
by NotFormer ini've noted before certain similarities between jws and independent fundamentalist baptists, such as door to door work.
the ifbs call it "soul winning".
the goal is usually to give a quick tour of a few bible verses, get the householder to "repeat after me" a formulaic prayer confessing faith in jesus.
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Nathan Natas
It seems to me that this "new light" doctrine of last-minute salvation kind of lets the air out of the only (if there's another, according to Watchtower mythology, enlighten me) "WORK" by which the individual *might* earn her personal salvation. A half-century ago (yeah, I was there) this required THOUSANDS of hours of door knocking, conducting free home Watchtower studies, with the goal og getting the sucker to sign on the bottom line and dedicate her life to The Watchtower.
"Hot patootie, bless my soul, I really love that rock n' roll!"
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JWs And Superstitions
by NotFormer inprompted by a mention in a different thread.. cracks in the sidewalk, a pinch of salt over the shoulder, black cats🐈⬛; do jws have such superstitious beliefs.
are they allowed to?
would they be counselled if the elders became aware?.
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Nathan Natas
My favorite among the collection of dumb superstitions common to Jehovah's Witnesses and JW(dot)ORG is the one about a gigantic invisible alien from the Alcyone sector who makes Thanos and Zenu look like underweight schoolboys. This alien, they will tell you, is the Universal Sovereign.
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Former Jehovah's Witness admits: We targeted grief-stricken as 'ripe fruit'
by Londo111 inhttp://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/80708572/former-jehovahs-witness-admits-we-targeted-grief-stricken-as-ripe-fruit.
jehovah's witnesses target grief and see the recently bereaved as "ripe fruit" for conversion, a former elder of the faith says.. vince and michele tylor spoke out after reading the story of wellington woman jean sergent-shadbolt, who received a handwritten letter from a jehovah's witness three months to the day after her step-cousin, friend and flatmate died.. a current senior elder of the faith says it has no policy to target grieving, and those who do so are acting on their own initiative.
however, he concedes such people may feel guided by jehovah's witness literature.. but vince tylor said he knew of members who would trawl though obituaries to find grieving people, or visit cemeteries.. "not only do we see watchtower printed material suggesting and supporting writing letters from obituaries such as what jean received, but we even have reports and articles of encouragement for jws to go to cemeteries to look for people as well.".
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Nathan Natas
I have to speak up: this is painting with a very broad brush. OK some asshole JWs did this, but not all; not even most. A minority of uber-"spiritual" half-wits who were probably sociopathic with little compassion or empathy.
I was a pioneer and MS during the late 1960s/early 1970s. I never once thought of doing anything like this.
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Are You Raising An Introvert?
by darth frosty inits not easy being an introvert in an extrovert worldespecially when youre a kid.
it is even more difficult if none of the adults in the kids life recognize that the child is an introvert.
this doesnt happen only when the childs parents are extroverts, but also with introverted parents who have never understood their own introverted nature.. .
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Nathan Natas
For 73 years I thought I was introverted. It was only this year that I was able to ask myself this question and once I did SO MUCH of my past became clear; I was able to see the "why" behind many events from my past.
This revelation was not received with much joy; quite the opposite, but from the moment I first began seeing it, it had the ring of truth.
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Are You Raising An Introvert?
by darth frosty inits not easy being an introvert in an extrovert worldespecially when youre a kid.
it is even more difficult if none of the adults in the kids life recognize that the child is an introvert.
this doesnt happen only when the childs parents are extroverts, but also with introverted parents who have never understood their own introverted nature.. .
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Nathan Natas
Consider this, if you will:
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JW Elder Sentenced for CSA
by EasyPrompt inhttps://www.westernmassnews.com/2023/09/01/jehovah-witness-elder-sentenced-jail-child-sexual-abuse-case/?outputtype=amp.
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Brothers and Sisters are urged to send Jay Aaron Smith Vaseline. LOTS of Vaseline.
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Sign of the Last Days
by Fisherman inin the sermon on the mount, jesus foretold that earthquakes “in one place after another” would be part of the sign of the last days clímaxing in the great tribulation.. what could jesus possibly have meant?
using a phone app nowadays, there are earthquakes detected in one place after another but is this what jesus meant and did they have so many earthquakes throughout the centuries affter his prophecy or are these modern day detected earthquakes unique to this epoch?
how can we be sure unequivocally that modern day earthquakes are part of the sign fulfilling bible prophecy?.
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Nathan Natas
Personally, I find the prophecy of renown scholar Peter Venkman much more convincing, "...dogs and cats living together...."
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Retirement savings
by TxNVSue2023 inwhat's the current jw stance on retirement savings?
i know it changed.
pre1975 it was an attitude of "don't worry about retirement, this system is ending soon".
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TxNVSue2023, don't you see the irony in the fact that here you have a concrete, real-world example of a Watchtower teaching that has had a serious negative effect on the financial lives of faithful JWs, possibly even yourself, and your conviction that JW.org is the "true religion"?Jehovah God must have some sort of mental disease to be the source of suffering (through intentionally misleading unwise teachings) for the people he claims as his own. Would you inflict this kind of abuse on your own children or ANY child?
NO! The intentionally misleading unwise teachings of The Watchtower come from men; ignorant, foolish men who live a life of cloistered ease while they bleed their impoverished "flock" for more and more money, much of which is used the pay the settlements of lawsuits brought by members who have suffered extreme abuse at the hands of some of these ignorant, foolish, deviant men. Where is the guidance of the Holy Spirit?